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Thursday, August 4, 2011

The Silent Woolf

In 2005, Ann Rosén and Sten-Olof Hellström assembled speakers on a scaffold surrounding empty space; low frequency sound pumped into the space so that sonorous wavelengths met and canceled one another out, creating continually moving spaces of silence. Spatial Silences asked the audience to believe what they could not see, what they could not hear. The installation created ambiguity among the audience as to whether silence even exists at all, and if they thought they ‘had it,’ what exactly did they have? (Schrimshaw 2) Thus, forcing the focus inwards, to their own silence.

Silence’s illusive nature has been a source of intrigue over time, allowing individuals and groups to use it in various ways. Within the Western culture for instance, it is common to observe a moment of silence for the passing of life. Silence has been used in the United States legal system as a way to reject self-incrimination by invoking one’s Fifth Amendment rights. Within the Eastern community, it can reflect religious reverence; monastic communities observe silence in the morning and through breakfast as a way to come into communion with a higher power. In Japanese culture, silence is utilized as just one component of their communication style, often asserting it during business negotiations with Westerners “as a strategy to unnerve them.”[1] Whether it assigns personal control to one’s voice or shows the inability to express appropriate language at the appropriate time, humans are in constant desire of the intangible silence. Whatever way humans use silence, in the case of Virginia Woolf’s Between the Acts, the empowering and debilitating role of silence oscillates, it often expresses a tension brought on by war - both micro and macro - and it exposes Woolf’s views of the creative during wartime, aggregately expressing a multitudinous role of silence.

Woolf, wrote “in August, 1940, for an American symposium on current matters concerning women” (TPA 173) that women’s roles during wartime was extremely important in that they had the opportunity to push against the conventions and – through thought – the highly charged atmosphere. She characterized silence, in this respect, as the unspoken action through a very active mind. She called on women in the essay “Thoughts of Peace in an Air Raid” to mentally fight against the current of the status quo, to think peace for the men who were out fighting the war. The title alone demonstrates the telepathy she desired and essentially, called on women to empower themselves during a precarious time. “Mental fight,” she said, “means thinking against the current” (TPA 174), a trajectory that was calling for more bloodshed and the loss of innocent lives. This idea of ‘mental fight’ she credited to Blake, who in his poem “Jerusalem” disavowed submitting to the dark days by fighting using the strength and ingenuity of the psyche. Silence for her meant the attempt to ease the destructive forces of war using the creativity boundless in the mind. However, while silence, with reference to concentrating the thoughts in order to making sense of the senseless and generate the feminine power from within, was conjured up, it conversely had a negative connotation when silence was made doubly manifest.

For Woolf, it could mean “[a]t any moment a bomb may fall on this very room […] during those seconds of suspense all thinking stopped” (TPA 176). Here, the role of silence is one that highlights loss, stripping the hearer of the very ownership of their thoughts. War clears out the mental cavity, leaving nothing, just as the bombs fall and destroy all that had stood. Similarly, she notes in a diary entry of August 1940 “[w]ill [the bomb] drop I asked? If so, we shall be broken together. I thought, I think, of nothingness […]” (410). Evidently, Woolf’s view of the war expresses the desire to control the contents of her mind, but at the same time reflects the vulnerable state with which it left her in.

In Between the Acts, for example, silence occurs in this submissive state where emptiness and the loss of words express the destructive forces looming. For instance, there are five uses of silence and five uses of emptiness (BTA 22) followed by language that suggests the impending war. The silent and empty room, which Candish surveys, is described like a “shell, singing of what was before time was” (ibid.). This description not only points to the shells of guns left over from a battle and the ringing of the ears after a bomb has exploded, but also, the language here reflects Woolf’s darker feelings about what war brings, nothing. This harkens back to the cesspool as well. Dried up, hollowed out so-to-speak, the viewer can “see plainly marked, the scars made by the Britons; by the Romans; by the Elizabethan manor house; and by the plough, when they ploughed the hill to grow wheat in the Napoleonic wars” (BTA 1). And yet, leaving the traces of what was suggests resilience in the aftermath. After all, both the room and Pointz Hall have been in the same family for generations.

Woolf’s thematic use of traces – crucially modernistic, expressed through the “orts, scraps and fragments” (BTA 116,133), the words that seem to be disjointed and blown away by the wind, or even the ringing left over from a bomb – represent those silent moments as resilience and hope. Trace in the Derridian sense reflects things existing because of their difference to their opposite. Silence, for instance, exists when the words, the utterance, are blown away; yet, those words still exist. Trace, naturally, has a foundation from which it came to be: the Heideggerian concept of ‘Being,’ which Derrida translates as a “‘voice of being’ […] silent, mute, insonorous, wordless, originally a-phonic” (316), still has a voice however intangible. Furthermore, according to Derrida’s reading of Heidegger, “between ‘the call of being,’ and articulated sound; such as rupture […] translates the ambiguity of the Heideggerian situation with respect to the metaphysics of presence and logocentrism” (ibid.). ‘Rupture’ here equates to the Woolfian silence, where the break occurs as the utterance leaves the speaker traveling to the hearer, and if the audience cannot hear it, must that call into question its existence? Spatial Silences rejects that claim, while at the same time an individual’s interaction with the work welcomes the doubt. The ambiguity, thus, exists within the realm of its emotional codification, where Woolf oscillates between the positive silence containing a regenerating quality and the negative that destroys all evidence of being, the pure essence of the individual and the collective, and consequently, where the tension can be located

For example, Woolf notes in her diary, “[b]ut perhaps next week will be more solitudinous – I should, if it weren’t for the war – glide my way up and up into the exciting layer so rarely lived in: where my mind works so quick it seems asleep; like the aeroplane propellers” (376). The war has the ability to take over so much so that she refers to her mind like the aeroplane propellers that will in Between the Acts ‘severe[]’ the word ‘opportunity’ (119); cutting off the reverends line of thought. When at times the reader will witness Woolf’s staunch refusal of allowing the enemy to gain control of her thoughts, there also exists a debilitating layer, particularly for a person who sees the new (war) technology and its powerful presence that entertains the notion of complete destruction, both physically and mentally. During the heightened use of propaganda by the Third Reich, “employees of the monitoring service were subject to nervous breakdowns” (Lewty 163) because of the language infiltrating their minds, attempting to control their thoughts. This paranoid, anxious version of silence infiltrates ‘opportunity’ because war can evidently take away one’s control over their minds. Moreover, since Woolf saw violence silencing the essence of creation, Candish looks through eyes that are wrought with tension, sees emptiness, and the reader is placed on the brink where something will happen. Consequently, the exhausted use of emptiness and silence (BTA 22) is followed with the entrance of Mrs. Manresa.

Silence here emphasizes Isa’s passive disapproval of the bond between Giles and Mrs. Manresa. For Isa though, it is not the prospect of an affair, she states after all, “[i]t made no difference; his infidelity […]” (BTA 69), but rather the woman whom he is fond of and whom Isa looks upon disapprovingly. She sees her as a disingenuous person, who dresses and acts too vulgarly, and she responds silently in her criticism, noting “‘[o]r what are your rings for, and your nails, and that really adorable little straw hat?’” (BTA 23) In fact, the moment when Isa feels Mrs. Manresa’s genuine nature, Mrs. Manresa has stripped herself of her decor, by rolling in the grass naked (BTA 26). Moreover, the observation of Mrs. Manresa’s vulgarity echoes Woolf’s disapproval of those women who believe they have no appropriate place in the political arena, and who instead enable the will for domination. She states, “women with crimson lips and crimson fingernails. They are slaves who are trying to enslave” (TPA 174). Woolf reflects here upon the negative version of trace in the master/slave dynamic.[2] She also refers here to women who are concerned only with their outward appearance being aligned with those men who are desirous of decorative medals; traditions, which teach that women ought to be pretty and men ought to be glorious. These emblems of pride produce nothing creative within, according to Woolf. She views them rather as the tools, spawned from the desire for power, which create the Hitlers of the world. Accordingly, Isa looks upon Mrs. Manresa as a shell. She describes her red nails “smooth as shells” (BTA 23) and teaching the women of town how to make “frivolous baskets out of coloured straw” (BTA 26). This basket mirrors what both Woolf and Isa see as hollow women, painted and pretty but containing nothing of substance. Silence in this case refers to the empty and uncreative aspects of war and strife. Moreover, after Isa notes Mrs. Manresa’s look, she “address[es] Mrs. Manresa silently and thereby making silence add it’s unmistakable contribution to talk” (BTA 23). In other words, she silently disapproves of Mrs. Manresa in an ostensibly passive-aggressive way. This passiveness though contrasts sharply with Mrs. Haines anger towards Isa in the beginning of the novel, and therefore, reflects the degenerative effects of silence in the negative.

Like Mrs. Manresa to Giles, Isa looks at Rupert Haines with desire. She feels Byron’s poetry encircle the two of them, describes herself and him as swans floating downstream, and characterizes his silence as one that denotes passion (BTA 2). This telepathic communion is so strong that even Mrs. Haines “was aware of the emotion circling them, excluding her” (ibid.) that upon rising to leave scolds Isa for not “recogniz[ing] my existence” (BTA 3). The difference here lies in the way each woman reacts to the other. Mrs. Haines reprimands Isa immediately and vocally extinguishes any further interaction between the two. She allows the passion for only a moment, but in the car ride home will “destroy it” (ibid.). There are multiple ways Woolf utilizes silence to discuss the two moments of emotional and physical adultery. Silence, as mentioned, refers to the passion and emotion floating between Isa and Rupert, just as the pockets of silence created in the installation exist even though they do so in the intangible realm. But it also refers to asserting disapproval without destroying or controlling the other. Mrs. Haines creates a silent void through her destruction, so much so that Isa only notes Rupert Haines when she sees him later as ‘the man in grey,’ referring to him as one who has been placed in an interstitial space. The grey denotes neither black, nor white but in between, and while their brief relationship was one that circled the air in a physically intangible – albeit emotional – fashion, Mrs. Haines has destroyed even the entertainment of passion.

The narrative ostensibly pays preference to Isa the poet, which further illustrates Woolf’s delineation of Isa’s silence as a creative force. War destroys, creates nothing or rather silences those creative impetuses. For Woolf, according to Alex Zwerdling, “Isa’s poetry must be seen simply as an escape from the tensions and abrasions of the real world in which she finds herself” (231), thus utilizing her poetry to, if not gain control of her surroundings, at least harness her thoughts. Consequently, she does so under the cover of silence, so as not to initiate her husband’s disapproving tongue by her playing anything other than the role of mother and wife, avoiding the inevitable confrontation. However, Isa is not a victim, nor faultless. She thinks destructively (BTA 34, 129), revealing in the narrative that feelings do not need to be acted upon, but can be transferred through the emotional will.

Isa notes, for instance, “[s]he could feel the Manresa in [Giles] wake […] (BTA 69). This emotional charge, floating in the ether, Isa observes just in the same way which Mrs. Haines notes the feeling of passion engulfing Isa and Rupert Haines. Isa, however, interacts with the moment silently, however much she can feel Mrs. Manresa. She, moreover, does not need to react against Mrs. Manresa, who is more of an irritant,[3] but her husband, who entertains the hollow, with whom she will battle. Precisely why, in the end, Isa knows that her and Giles “must fight, as the dog fox fights with the vixen, in the heart of darkness, in the fields of night” (BTA 136). This change from passive to active fighting will also bear “another life” (ibid.), one of the most natural acts we humans possess. Furthermore, if, as she has said, women ought to think peace for the men at war in order to, in some telepathic way, inspire peace and creation within the community, then by the act of bearing life after the fight, Isa and Giles’ war has a creative element. Moreover, the difference exists where the battles are chosen. It is not, as Woolf suggests:

[…] that we are free people, fighting to defend freedom. That is the current that has whirled the young airman up into the sky and keeps him circling there among the clouds. […] We are both prisoners tonight – he boxed up on his machine with a gun handy; we lying in the dark with a gas-mask handy. If we were free we should be out in the open, dancing, at the play, or sitting at the window talking together. (TPA 174)

Those notions, which imprison, are ones that have been passed down, infiltrating the mind for generations. Conversely, it is rather the individual’s will to choose their battles.

Juxtaposing the interaction between Isa and Mrs. Haines with Isa and Mrs. Manresa, illustrates the creative force of war when each individual purposely chooses those battles. Isa and Giles will possibly create, but Rupert Haines on the other hand has been robbed of color and been placed in the margins of the mind. This goes back to the notion of ‘trace,’ and accordingly, peace is rooted in its binary opposition, war, because without one, there is not the other. William James said in his essay entitled “The Moral Equivalent of War”:

"Peace" in military mouths today is a synonym for "war expected." The word has become a pure provocative, and no government wishing peace sincerely should allow it ever to be printed in a newspaper. Every up-to-date dictionary should say that "peace" and "war" mean the same thing, now in posse, now in actu. It may even reasonably be said that the intensely sharp preparation for war by the nations is the real war, permanent, unceasing; and that the battles are only a sort of public verification of the mastery gained during the "peace"-interval. (Web)

Most notably in this passage is that the ‘preparation … is the real war,’ and Woolf echoes that sentiment. She felt that the tension of waiting for the bombs to destroy her existence, silenced her creative fervor, and impinged on her world dismantling the imaginative forces. She complained in her diary entry dated 23 August 1940, “[b]ook flopped. Sales down to 15 a day since air raid on London. IS that the reason? Will it pick up?” (411) What is the most crucial difference here is the frustration Woolf expresses with war that impinges versus those fights in the private sphere that are necessary. She felt within her community, particularly the reports coming through the radio and in the papers, the tension like a “heavy, suspended sentence – the lead-up to the war – had been rigidly orchestrated by radio” (Lewty 154). This assault on Woolf’s world – by the radio, for instance – has been said to be the catalyst for her community-oriented approach to the novel.

Melba Cuddy-Keane, in her essay entitled The Politics of Comic Modes in Virginia Woolf’s Between the Acts, focuses in on this community-centered narrative of the novel. However, it is not in my estimation simply a call for “a new concept of community in which the insider-outsider dichotomy is erased and the bond of common identity is rewritten as unifying participation in common action” (Cuddy-Keane 275), but rather what she later notes is “Woolf’s sense of the vital spaces and silences in human communication – gaps that may fragment but also bestow individual freedom” (279). The narrative reveals and rejects the corrosive elements within a community that reject personal freedom for one acceptable line of thought. Especially in lieu of the ideological fervor of the Third Reich that proved to be of terrible consequence and where Woolf felt in direct threat of;[4] a clear indication of what one individual’s desire looked like when the community followed blindly.

Take for instance, Quentin Bell’s example of Leonard Woolf reflecting on a photograph that they had seen, which Bell describes in his biography on Woolf as “the image that stared Leonard and Virginia in the face in July 1940” (216). The image showed the humiliation of a Jewish man and Leonard noted “… what was even more horrible was the look on the faces of respectable men and women, standing on the pavement, laughing at the victim” (ibid.). As Leonard was Jewish, the Woolfs knew that this assault was not far from their own home, and as such, had prepared for their suicide to avoid capture by the German army. Accordingly, Between the Acts rejects the groupthink that was prevalent in the picture and what had helped fuel the war. Examining Rupert Haines who became a phantom when domination overpowered his will and stamped out his ‘passion’ against Giles left alone to his own vices, the individual mind is paramount.

Giles initially questions his essence, feeling first ‘fear’ that he is “‘not in [his] perfect mind […] [e]xiled from the festival […] and I … I … I,’ he repeated, forgetting the words” (BTA 53). Not only in this passage is the language reflective of the silence that negatively effects the mind, but so too are the uses of the ellipses between the word ‘I’ reflective of that silence. Unable to define and remember the words to describe his feelings, he repeats the single letter that points back at himself three times, pausing between each one and essentially forgetting the words. This stammer echoes Woolf’s view of the “disintegrating effect” (Lewty 158) of Elizabeth Bowen’s stuttering. Furthermore, Woolf cited fear as the force that silences the creative and when “[d]irectly that fear passes, the mind reaches out and instinctively revives itself by trying to create” (TPA 176). As Giles, who has been silently brooding over the war through the course of the narrative, tries to regain control of and relieve his mind, does so by violently crushing a snake devouring a toad. He calls that “action. Action relieved him” (BTA 62) and leaves the trace on his white shoe. The white symbolizes peace, the red blood war, and Giles is somewhere in between, oscillating from positive to negative silence. Consequently, Giles expresses how Mrs. Manresa, and presumably the violent action, “make[s] him feel less of an audience, more of an actor” (BTA 67). According to him he has gained control over some innate “ancient instincts, instincts fostered and cherished by education and tradition” (TPA 175), at his own behest, becoming an actor to essentially gain control of his private realm.

Moreover, this notion of protecting and controlling the personal field, where silence on the outside is beneficial when fostering the creativity on the inside, can be seen in both the widow’s reaction to the play and the use of the mirrors to express a supposedly community unifying force. The widows initially enjoy the simple notion of a village play bringing the community together; “[t]hat’s what’s so nice – it brings people together” (BTA 99) one widow observes. In this moment the widow’s voices are almost fused. Woolf frequently utilizes ellipses and virtually no dialogue tags to delineate which of the widows are speaking. Presumably, they are one in the same and interchangeable, both joined together by their solitude. But as their opinion of the play progresses, they begin to fracture and separate from one another. As they attempt to dissect the reference to Victorian England and whether it is an affront to their familial lines, the widows each individually “tut” and Etty Springett exclaims “how difficult to come to any conclusion! She wished they would hurry on with the next scene. She liked to leave a theatre knowing exactly what was meant” (BTA 101-02). Likewise, Mrs. Lynn Jones exclaims, “[w]hy she did not know” (BTA 101). Both of the widows are given separate voices, yet they remain equally unaware of the meaning of the play. After the Victorian picnic scene, the widows both disapprove of the reenactment of their younger days, not because it was an insincere representation, but because it expressed extravagance. “‘This is too much, too much,’ Mrs. Springett protests” (BTA 105), illustrating by the repetition of ‘too much’ the excesses and her general disapproval. Finally, after the interval the widows are in entire disagreement. Mrs. Lynn Jones calls the play “beautiful” (BTA 107) while Mrs. Springett says it was “[c]heap and nasty” (ibid.) with a snap to her voice. What is meant, according to Cuddy-Keane as a community engaging play, degenerates and the two women who had shared one voice, come out of the play with antithetical opinions to one another.

With respect to the mirrors, La Trobe hopes they will reflect back on everyone in their unguarded state, and break the fourth wall that separates the players from the audience, causing everyone, including nature, to be united. It, however, is not received with good intentions in mind and “all evaded or shaded themselves” (BTA 115), except Mrs. Manresa who uses the mirror to primp and “redden[] her lips” (ibid.). She turns the volume up to the very thing Woolf decries as prototypical of enslavers. Moreover, the mirror has already been utilized for deception. In the play entitled, Where there’s a Will there’s a Way, Flavinda talks about looking in her “[a]unt’s cracked mirror” (BTA 84). The audience discovers shortly that the aunt is planning on marrying Flavinda off to a cohort in order to acquire her niece’s dowry. The cracked mirror matched with the aunt’s persona reveals deception and the breaking of her promise to protect her niece from harm. Likewise, the mirror scene at the end utilizes broken mirrors supplied by the audience, but the audience has not sanctioned their actual use. Additionally, the words are silenced and replaced with ellipses (BTA 114). This shattering of the individual to unite the community falls flat, and while Cuddy-Keane notes “La Trobe is not a satiric portrait judged against the norm of traditional notions of successful leadership but is instead an amiable comic figure who functions to extend and redefine those very assumptions” (278), her failure has not induced a sense of community, but has rather pitted the audience against the players and the play itself. Her use of cracked mirrors on one hand to warn of impending deception does not slip the mind so easily to find the audience in awe of staring deception in the face. Furthermore, the attempt at uniting the fragmented faces of the audience with the fragmented language of the players, each reciting a piece from their part, only serves to confuse the message more.

This confusion of community coalescing calls forth Woolf’s feelings regarding the war affecting her words and how words are twisted on the radio, “resembl[ing] ‘a cross eyed squint’ like searchlight beams or even a jumble of wires through which there is no ‘getting at truth’” (Lewty 156). The village play, meant to bring the community together and share in their understanding of England on the brink of destruction, actually ends with destruction. The audience disperses, their words fragment and are silenced by the repetitive use of ellipses; Isa knows she will probably never see her co-conspirator again (BTA 128); and the play is silenced by nature and aeroplanes ready to bomb and destroy, reflecting a desire that Woolf had. She expressed a longing to reject the technological in order to revert back to pre-urbanite times. Bell reveals, “[a]t night it was so dark and so unsocial that she wondered whether she might not be seeing the end of urban life and the beginning of a time when badgers and foxes, owls and nightingales would populate the darkened city” (212). In fact, she noted in her diary a sense of exhilaration at the destruction of her Tavistock and Mecklenburgh homes (Diary 427-28). It filled her with a sense of liberation to be rid of the weight of stuff.

Woolf felt as if war was bringing an end to civilization and civility, as she knew it. Silence, in this context, refers to the effect of war on the individual and community, whether it is in reference to death or how an able body copes with stress. Again, she said, “[t]he emotion of fear and of hate is therefore sterile, unfertile. Directly that fear passes, the mind reaches out and instinctively revives itself by trying to create. Since the room is dark it can create only from memory” (TPA 176), from the trace of what was. But, if war destroys civilization and the tools that help an archeologist discern what that world had looked like, memory emerges irrelevant. Woolf crucially and palpably fears her indelible mark being erased. This is the negative effect of silence as nothing; this is La Trobe’s frustration with her words not reaching the audience and why they stood in confusion. Yet, this is why the Oliver’s must create; without creation there eventually cease to be words and memories for Woolf who she stared out at her world on the brink of annihilation. This is precisely why they, as a family, choose when to fight, when to create, and where the actual beginning of the play exists, when they finally choose then when to speak.

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[1] See http://www.rikkinyman.com/training/japanese_culture/communication.htm

[2] See BTA 116

[3] See BTA 34

[4] See TPA and her discussion of Hitlerism

Monday, August 3, 2009

The Absurdity of Truth in the Wake of Propaganda

One of the most terrifying aspects of public outlook is the ability for the public to be swayed by the opinions of the so-called intellectuals or public servants. It is in this vein of discussion where opinions are solidified and rules and regulations are set in stone. The difficulty with these judgments though is that so many ride on the necessitation of a further goal and sometimes goals which can be of a more incendiary nature and ultimately criminal. Propaganda, to be exact, has been a tool utilized with the aforementioned goal in mind; but to what extent and how ought the public at large know when propaganda is being used to further these goals of say world domination? Through the lens of philosophers, authoritarians, and victims the oft-arbitrary nature of truth will be examined as well as how propaganda has historically played a role in shaping societal truths.

The very word truth poses difficulty; when heard it is assumed that the speaker is genuine and has no ulterior motives. However, as Friedrich Nietzsche so eloquently states, “[knowledge’s] most universal effect is deception” (Nietzsche 43) because of the very nature of knowledge/truth. Nietzsche’s explanation of this deception for the Nazi’s comes in the form of the human’s inherent vanity. In the interest of ones self-preservation, too often - and similarly in Albert Speer’s memoirs Inside the Third Reich- one is “acting a role before others and before oneself” (Nietzsche 43).

Speer’s account of the vanity of Nazi’s and their desire for power could be drawn not from his words, but the very pictures themselves. His “Cathedral of Ice” for example not only raised Hitler above his audience so that they were forced to raise their heads in awe, but also gave the illusionary quality of the people being in a prison. The lights formed bar-like structures around the perimeter, and moreover, the name itself conjured up images of reverence and obedience. This use of visual propaganda can be likened to what Nietzsche refers to as the Nazi’s “deeply immers[ing their subjects] in illusions and dream images; their eye glides only over the surface of things and sees “forms”; their feeling nowhere leads into truth, but contents itself with the reception of stimuli […]” (Nietzsche 43). Not only does the structure call for the audience to heed to its impressiveness, but it also calls for the audience to ignore the true motives of the Nazi’s.

Speer’s architectural endeavors - with the purpose of control through propaganda – echoes Nietzsche’s idea of truth being likened to “[a] mobile army of metaphors” (Nietzsche 46) for Speer utilized the structures with the same intent of obedience and reverence. His constructions, like the “Cathedral of Ice” and “the New Chancellery,” themselves are the very metaphor to promote feelings of unworthiness in respect to their size, as well as, imposing order with the application of the neoclassical design.

“The New Chancellery” was Hitler’s conversation with the western world. He wanted it to not only “impress London society by the sumptuousness of the embassy” (Speer 108), but specifically to affect the “smaller dignitaries” (Speer 102). This specificity of person with which Hitler wanted to impress upon was a lower caliber, and thus, more easily swayed away from reality towards power and prestige. Hitler made excellent use of Nietzsche’s “mobile army of metaphors” and employed someone who was adept at making his propagandistic vision a reality.

In Elie Wiesel’s Night, the affect that the Nazi’s had on the Jew’s in Sighet was palpable. Wiesel recalls the German soldiers wore “steel helmets” (Wiesel 27) that bore a “death’s-head emblem” (Wiesel 27) and while this in itself suggests impending doom, the Jew’s stayed in a state of denial. Before they had heard that the German’s were anti-Semitic, Wiesel stated that while they “had heard of the Fascists, […] it was all in the abstract” (Wiesel 27). In other words, the metaphor of the Fascist and their inevitable appearance in Sighet only spoke of the governmental responsibilities of this new command. The compliance with which the Jews in Sighet bore suggests the power of the propaganda and the ease at which one gives up sovereignty. They were “reassured” (Wiesel 27) by the soldier’s demeanor and hadn’t the slightest inclination of the true motives of the Nazi’s. Wiesel’s story shows this slow but pervading power that the Nazi’s employed beginning with their arrival, to the yellow star, and ultimately the Holocaust.

Even when the citizen’s of Sighet heard the stories that they were heading towards a terrible fate, they remained blind to their inherent right to freedom and one must take pause as to why anyone is not vigilant towards their personal preservation. The philosopher Alfred Jules Ayer saw truth as something that is asserted. He said as humans it is our responsibility to recognize when something is “false, not because it is formally defective, but because it fails to satisfy some material criterion. And it is our responsibility to discover what that criterion is” (Ayer 90). It is assumed that, like the soldiers initial demeanor, the ruler’s actions were proper, just as the Hungarians - who allied themselves with the Nazi’s - believed the lies Hitler was speaking about the Jews were true. Truth became a tool used to manipulate, and propaganda was its “mobile army.”

But propaganda is not only affective through the use of carefully constructed rallies, buildings, and lies disguised as truth; its implementation during times of crisis is paramount to fundamentally changing the way a nation views it’s fellow citizens, as well as how a people view one another. John Okada’s image of America in No-No Boy speaks volumes that societies consent in having an unrealistic sense of their surroundings, one that leaves the viewer in a fuzzy state of ignorance. Ichiro asks “[w]here is that place they talk of and paint nice pictures of and describe in all the homey magazines?” (Okada 159) This is in part the American Dream that people so ravishingly devour in hopes of being the “tired, hungry, and poor” that America accepts with open arms. Okada poignantly remarks through Ichiro that “[o]ne hears the voice of the Negro or Japanese or Chinese or Jew, a clear bell-like intonation of the common struggle for recognition as a complete human being […]” (Okada 134). Through No-No Boy’s characters, the reader experiences this struggle that fractures the lives and families when they realize even the American Dream comes with exceptions.

The level of splintering among the Japanese-Americans is a true testament to the misinformation we readily accept. Those, like Ichiro, who chose to conscientiously object the draft, were considered traitors, but those who fought for the United States, like Kenji, were emotionally being chipped away at. The image of Kenji’s leg being cut inch by inch until his untimely death illustrates the hardship of fighting among a people who had just recently interned the Japanese. It also finds expression in his own need to delude himself when “[he] downed his thankfully” (Okada 119) and then surveyed his own father appreciating the alcohol he himself mindlessly ingested, suggesting it is not the taste to enjoy, but it’s physical and mental numbing properties.

Alcohol plays an important role in denying the facts of Japanese-American lives during WWII. Kenji not only drinks it to forget the pain of losing a leg inch by inch, but Ichiro’s father drowns out the truth as well. He not only uses it to drink away the reality of his son, Ichiro’s, misery, or his wife’s insanity, or his other boy, Taro’s, running away to the Army; but as a disinfectant as well (Okada 174). Moreover, as soon as the mother dies – symbolizing the nisei’s break from the issei – he quits drinking and begins life anew, suggesting the difficulty of maintaining ones culture and identity in a foreign land.

When Okada discusses the “apostrophe” (Okada 229) of an Irish name versus the removal creating a Japanese last name, this need to remove the traditional is further pressed upon the reader. Naomi Klein states in her book The Shock Doctrine this need to remove identity from the group who is being derogated. To further instill a level of inferiority, the CIA manual of 1983 stated a prisoner for example must be “segregated immediately,” (Klein 459) and then “[i]solation, both physical and psychological, must be maintained from the moment of apprehension” (Klein 459). When America was attacked at Pearl Harbor the immediate removal of the Japanese, regardless of their birthplace, was necessary to keep the level of fear among the “natural” Americans. It was also a tool to encourage the subordination of the Japanese-Americans. Much to their chagrin, they complied in order to show their American loyalty.

The Japanese paper “The Rafu Shimpo” encouraged their readers during the war to “[s]peak up now!” (2-14-42) to show that they were “loyal American[s]” (2-14-42) but with the local American papers, such as “The Los Angeles Times” or the “San Francisco Chronicle” it was difficult to break away from the pervading fear. Cartoon pictures in the Times just four days after “The Rafu Shimpo” was calling for their undeniable support of America, shows a Japanese – with knife in hand and scull encrusted on the uniform - drooling aggressively over helpless bits of meat which are attempting to inch themselves away from the devourer. Just below the derogatory depiction, a concerned citizen is writing into the Times suggesting that the “West Coast” ought “not overlook all those German and Italian “refugees”” (Times 2-18-42).

Furthermore, an editorial in the “SF Chronicle” relishes in Washington “oust[ing] enemy aliens” and calls the internment and separation “necessary and proper acts of national defense, regardless of the individual hardships and injustices involved” (SF Chronicle 2-1-42). This use of fear mongering and causing unnecessary hysteria does not help when the aforementioned paper’s front page saying the “Jap Armada” is invading a “Dutch [s]tronghold” (SF Chronicle 2-1-42). This “mobile army of metaphors” creates an atmosphere of hate and confusion.

These papers helped shape a world-view of the Japanese. Their derogatory statements clearly created a false sense of who the Japanese really were. “The Rafu Shimpo” was the voice of the steadfast Japanese but it was unheeded by the hysteria which propaganda so effortlessly stirs. Calling themselves “[l]oyal Americans of Japanese ancestry [who] pledge[d] to live and die for the Stars and Stripes” (2-3-42) would have been the ultimate American testament of their national pride, yet this truth was veiled in comments rich with strife.

Humans can be easily swayed when tragedy strikes or during times of civil unrest. We allow ourselves to be overcome with emotions based off of ignorance, and do not vigilantly search out the truth of the matter. When Nietzsche believed that truth could so easily be mocked by disguising words as knowledge, he makes a poignant statement: unless we are vigilant, the light will never be exposed.

Hitler made nations believe, by his use of grand settings and over-the-top gestures that the Jews really were enemies and the Jews believed that nothing terrible was going to happen until it was too late. Both Okada and “The Rafu Shimpo” illustrated what the tearing apart of families looked like and how loyal they truly were, while local newspapers cultivated peoples fear of the Japanese and misinformed the reader with assumptions based off of ignorance. Seemingly, no one sought the truth of the matter; they kept with the status quo and believed their lives would be blissful - unbeknownst to them – in ignorance and with blood on their hands.

Works Cited

Ayer, Alfred Jules. “Truth and Probability.” Language, Truth and Logic. 2nd ed. New York: Dover Publications, 1946. 87-90. Print.

Klein, Naomi. The Shock Doctrine The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. New York: Metropolitan Books, 2007. Print.

The Los Angeles Times [Los Angeles] Feb. 1942. Print.

Nietzsche, Friedrich. "From On Truth and Lie in an Extra-Moral Sense." The Portable Nietzsche. Ed. Walter Kaufmann. Trans. Walter Kaufmann. New York: Penguin Books, 1976. 42-47. Print.

Okada, John. No-no boy. Seattle: University of Washington, 1981. Print.

The Rafu Shimpo [Los Angeles] Feb. 1942. Print.

The San Francisco Chronicle [San Francisco] Feb. 1942. Print.

Speer, Albert. Inside the Third Reich. New York: Scribner, 1981. Print.

Wiesel, Elie. The Night Trilogy Night, Dawn, Day. New York: Hill and Wang, 2008. Print.

Friday, May 15, 2009

Zombieism

“… we see it from coming overseas and that’s what really scares us.” (ZAPT: The Zombie Attack Preparedness Team)

 

Any classic Zombie movie utilizes the formula of predator versus prey; within the scope of Orientalism however, the Zombie can be likened to the marginalized groups of the Orient. By examining the practiced management of a threat known as the “Zombie Apocalypse” in the short documentary on ZAPT, the Orientalization of the Other becomes metaphorically clear, and the theory of Orientalism exposes how the Other systematically becomes demonized in the application of texts in order to exert control over the Occidental citizens.

Orientalism bases itself on the “textual attitude” (Said 3) one acquires through reading without having any knowledge that is based in real life experiences. In the case of the Zombie Attack Preparedness Team (ZAPT), this impending reality is all too real. The group, based out of Louisiana, is prepared for a biological attack that would result in the Zombie metamorphosis of their peers. They tout the acceptance of killing one another in the event of turning to that of the un-dead and they teach their children the inevitable Zombie extermination skills. They are driven from fear based off the application of various texts dealing with ‘Zombieism’ and what Orientalism teaches through propaganda is how to marginalize the Other. 

Edward Said speaks very clearly in the oddity of taking a text for doctrine. However, he states that people in fact “have tried and do try to use texts [to apply what one learns out of a book literally to reality…]” (Said 3). In the case of ZAPT, all they know about the world is through their own application of Zombie text to real world experiences. This paper is not so much to prove Zombie’s ought to have a chance before one systematically demonizes them, but rather to show how a discourse shapes ones views to an Orientalistic approach in the dealings of the Other. For the militia group, they are on constant guard against the threat of their version of the Other, Zombies. And in promoting fear of those “overseas” carrying a biological disease that would turn loved ones into the undead who feed off the flesh of the living, their experiences correlate with how one views fantasy and the zeitgeist of the nation, more specifically the military presence in the Middle East.

Orientalism was employed during WWII through the propaganda spread in the states; newspapers abound applied fear-based tactics to sway the US constituents in order to promote aggression towards the Japanese culture, and thus, caused the internment of Japanese American’s. This correlation in terms of Zombie movies and ZAPT arises out of a fear of the East in terms of the “War on Terror.”

What must be feared today are the Middle East countries who harbor terrorists and the threat of biological warfare such as Anthrax and nuclear bombs. ZAPT exemplifies a group who uses the information given and internalizes it by its application to a fantastical creature known as the Zombie. The Zombie can only be likened to a doll with which they are able to practice their aggression upon. However, this fear is rather irrational. A study completed in 2001 comparing the chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear (CBNR) use at the Monterey Institute Center for Nonproliferation Studies, states that the actual “proportion of incidents of use to total incidents, although rising, continues to be lower in the United States than any other region.” (CNS) Following up with the study updated in 2003, another article by the same group states that “the anthrax incidents have been small in scale, with the apparent intent of frightening rather than killing large numbers of people.” (CNS)

In addition, out of the roughly 354 Zombie movies beginning in 1932 to those in post-production, 205 were made between 2000 and 2009 (Wikipedia: “List of Zombie Films”). That seems to be a large cluster during the same time of the US invasion/ occupation of the Middle East, and while other sources are not factored in, such as the increase in demand as well as the increase in motion picture industry wealth, there still seems to be a need by groups like ZAPT to make judgments about the Other based off of those movies and their own fear of the Other.

Said references Michel Foucault as being an influence in his analysis of Orientalism. Much like ZAPT who arrive at conclusions based off of various Zombie movies. Foucault discusses in “Discipline and Punish” the influence that a power structure needs to acquire and maintain control on an individual. It’s written in Foucault’s meditation on the Panopticon in that the individual might not see a threat, but what these movies show and how they have affected a group in the South, has manifested a choice to kill based only off what they cannot see. This uprising of a homegrown military presence to protect the states from the Other is the perfect result of the propaganda of the divisive: Middle East bad, Americans good.

 This particular Zombie aficionado group is genuinely fearful of the “Zombie Apocalypse.”  They have been watching movies and in turn Orientalizing groups they have yet to meet. In describing Napoleon and de Lesseps, Said states, “they knew, more or less, about the Orient [] from books written in the tradition of Orientalism” (Said 3), and furthermore, for them the Orient [] was something to be encountered and dealt with to a certain extent because the texts made the Orient possible.” (Said 3) So too have the Zombie movies made those overseas possible and the culprit of turning the West into an apocalyptic vision of the flesh eating, undead.

The first Zombie movie was made in 1932 and called White Zombie which follows the jealousy of a man, Charles Beaumont, who owns a plantation in Haiti and acquires the services of Murder Legendre. Legendre turns Beaumont’s love into the living-dead and provides Beaumont with cheap labor for the opportunity to experiment on the young woman. What should first be noted lies in the mystery surrounding a place like Haiti; it provides the perfect threat so close to home, one that employs much different customs than that of the traditional view of Occidentals. The other important factor can be found in the use of exercising power over an individual. Beaumont’s love falls for another and in the guise of feigning a celebratory party, takes control of his lost love by turning her to the undead.

Similarly, in 28 Weeks Later the use of the American military is all too a common element in any movie whose subject matter requires control. The military knows the best way to handle a Zombie outbreak, and shows the people of England how they protect the citizens from the Other who are lurking at their borders. This is similar to Said’s description of this phenomenon in respect to Orientalism “as the corporate institution for dealing with the Orient…” (Said 1) With respect to ZAPT, they are taking it upon themselves to “deal[] with the Orient.”

Just as 28 Weeks Later utilizes the institution of the military to show the Occidental prowess, so too does ZAPT take the initiative to become just like the military power of the army in 28 Weeks Later. They own fully automatic weapons, they perform drills, and they state they will shoot to kill anyone that threatens their livelihood. ZAPT can protect the citizens who remain unaffected in order for them to go about their daily business. They can learn form the snipers in 28 Weeks Later who hover above waiting for the split second to shoot anyone who breeches the border. The use of fear of the Other has become palpable for groups like ZAPT witnessing this protection of the borders or rather the protection of the threat of the Other against the One.

Furthermore, because their militia camaraderie is directly related to the viewing of the destruction of Zombies, the common thread among Zombie movies is this protection through violent means. It seems to be resonant with Said when he discusses that “Orientalism is premised upon exteriority” (Said 2).  In the case of Zombies, the extermination of them is based off this “exteriority” and groups like ZAPT are more than prepared to utilize what the surface has unfolded. They know Zombie’s from the “textual attitude” (Said 3) they have gained through the viewing of Zombie films, one that necessitates the removal of the Other.

When biological attacks occur they will with the utmost confidence gun down all those who threaten their sameness. After all, what they know is based off the Zombie “canons of taste and value” (Said 2) so-to-speak. It is through the lens of Zombie movies, which has molded their ideas and these ideas have provided them with a paranoid view of the Other.

This resonates with Said’s assertion, which says that Orientals are unable to speak for themselves and must be spoken for. Fido provides an excellent experimental look at how the Other can be spoken for. In this particular Zombie film, the Zombie’s are chained in people’s backyards, hooked up to “The Domestication Collar,” (Fido) and treated as slaves by “becom[ing] productive members of society, even after [they] die” (Fido). If this were an option, to treat the Other as a slave, then why would a group like ZAPT want to automatically kill when the One turns to the dark side? If the Other is able to have a mind to think and plan, this threatens their world. So, a group such as ZAPT is forced to take measures that are drastic but lasting. With even the inclination that the Other might have an effect on the One it is best to rid this threat all together.

The movie Fido, furthermore, shows the threat quite clearly when the mother, Ms. Robinson, falls in love with their pet Zombie, Fido, as well as when the high-ranking military officer is turned into a pet Zombie. Firstly, the discourse, which Said understands to be the most significant factor of Orientalism, is expressed in the blossoming love. It is what Said points at in respect to a “cultural discourse” (Said 2), one which he states “is commonly circulated by [] not “truth” but representations.” (Said 2) The mother is attracted to the elusive and exotic elements of the Other. In order to make the Other unattractive, they must have a disparaged identity given to them.

The military destruction is another cautionary tool developed. The antagonist of Fido is not the Zombie, but rather Mr. Bottoms, the head of security at Zomcom, the institution that developed the ability to domesticate the Zombies. At the end of the film, Fido saves Timmy Robinson, the son who treated Fido as a part of the family, from Mr. Bottoms and in turn, Mr. Bottoms is turned into the domesticated Zombie. Thus, Fido serves as a caution to discourage the humanizing and rather demonize the Other to protect against the adverse affect, one that will ultimately break the familial foundation.

Tokyo Zombie utilizes this enslavement of the Other as well, however, this comes directly from the Other. This film takes a gladiator approach to the Zombies by having an arena, which the wealthy citizens watch fights between enslaved humans and Zombies. The wealthy citizens similarly with the citizens of 28 Weeks Later and Fido are protected in a ‘healthy’ enclosed environment with the Zombies just lurking outside the border walls. Interestingly, in Tokyo Zombie the proper way is to watch the poor and Zombies fight to the death, because this city does not respect the inferior. They give them no voice, resonating with Said’s “relation between Western writing (and its consequences) and Oriental silence the result of and the sign of the West’s great cultural strength, its will to power over the Orient.” (Said 3)

Just as might be suspected, in the end of Tokyo Zombie, the protagonist flees the city towards the uncaged Zombies. This is a very symbolic scene because Mitsuo, even though able to kill the Zombie’s quite easily in the arena setting and hence closer to securing a better life for his family, flees this promise of luxury for freedom from the Western capitalistic ideals. Mitsuo rejects the Western influence that is expressed in the spectators who wear luxurious furs and throw their money around quite effortlessly, for a more authentic Oriental version that he may be proud of. 

For Said, he describes this Orientalization of the Other as the lion being touted as fierce and therefore is. ZAPT is treating the Zombie as “irrational, depraved (fallen), childlike, “different”” (Said 4) versus ZAPT’s own “rational, virtuous, mature, “normal”” (Said 3) persona. As Said says, “we might expect that the ways by which it is recommended that a lion’s fierceness be handled will actually increase its fierceness, force it to be fierce since that is what it is, and that is what in essence we know or can only know about it.”(Said 2) ZAPT has no concept beyond what a biological attack based Zombie text has provided them with and are armed to deal with this “fierceness” they are imposing on Zombie’s whom they have yet to meet.  Even when a text attempts to humanize or use the Zombie metaphor to expose the absurdity in treating any being negatively, groups like ZAPT continue to press on because of the unyielding strength of propaganda.

Works Cited

Ackerman, Gary, Kimberly McCloud, and Jason Pate. "2000 WMD Terrorism Chronology: Incidents Involving Sub-National Actors and Chemical, Biological, Radiological, or Nuclear Materials." CNS. 30 Apr. 2001. James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies. 15 May 2009 .

Fido. Dir. Andrew Currie. Perf. Carrie-Anne Moss and Billy Connolly. DVD. Lionsgate, 2006.

Foucault, Michel. "Discipline and Punish." Ed. Julie Rivkin and Michael Ryan. Literary Theory: An Anthology. 2nd ed. Malden: Blackwell, 2004. 549-66.

"List of zombie films." Wikipedia. 11 May 2009. 13 May 2009 .

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Said, Edward. "Orientalism." Ed. Julie Rivkin and Michael Ryan. Literary Theory: An Anthology. 1st ed. Malden: Blackwell, 1998.

Tokyo Zombie. Dir. Sakichi Sato. Perf. Tadanobu Asano and Sho Aikawa. DVD. Manga, 2005.

28 Weeks Later. Dir. Juan Carlos Fresnadillo. Perf. Robert Carlyle and Rose Byrne. DVD. Twentieth Century Fox, 2007.

Webb, Morgan. "G4 Underground - Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse." G4 Underground. G4. G4, Los Angeles, CA. 29 Apr. 2009. 29 Apr. 2009. 15 May 2009 .

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009

Miss America

The following is a copy of an online discussion. It's amazing the varying views expressed by eight different people, much like the battle of voices between the various theories.



Speaker 1

Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:54am

Wow! I think this has to be the best clip I have yet to show... Not only is the Miss America Beauty Pageant the epitome of "heterosexual identity [] propelled into an endless repetition of itself" (Butler packet), because the women wear the "gender proper" (Butler) attire and discuss the "gender proper" roles they can play in society; moreover, the last contestant assumes that heterosexuality as proper and natural allows only the marriage between a man and woman. I'm floored that she said "no offense, " as if to say 'oh, I'm sorry sir you're an irregular part of society, and therefore, can not express whom you may love, no offense I'm taking away your right to choose.'  Furthermore, these women almost look like they are in drag, and this pageant is all just a farcical comedy and imitation of the real.

 Ps: Rachel Maddow and Kent Jones are both unnatural homosexuals, I like seeing their reaction to the charge of heterosexuality being the proper way.


Speaker 2

Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:48pm

Hahaha, I am probably one of the few conservatives in the class, so I know everyone is going to bash me, please don't! I think it is interesting how ... points out that women have turned into one of the groups that have overcome trials and should be more liberal and progressive. That puts them into the same category as racial minorities and homosexuals, thus, according to that argument, they should all be on the same page.

However, I do not believe that there was anything wrong with what Miss California said. Honestly, I would answer the same way. One of my best friends is gay and we talked about the whole Prop 8 issue and I must say, there were good points on BOTH sides. I am sick and tired of the whole Prop 8 thing, so I'm going to leave it at that. I would say "no offense" too because some people are homosexual and they might take offense at what she said. I think that just because she is from a liberal state and she is a woman who has benefitted from the women's rights movement, people are making a big deal out of it and it is unfair. Those are her beliefs, and she has a right to them, just as people who believe gay marriage is acceptable have a right to their beliefs. I personally, do not believe gay marriage is right (due to my religion and conservative beliefs), but if the law said that homosexuals could get married, I would not go and protest. If my friend were to get married to his boyfriend, I would go and support them! So, I would be alright with it, but as far as my value system goes, I am against it. As Miss America said, no offense to anyone, that's just my prerogative.


Speaker 3

Date: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:36pm

Voltaire said, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." This is one of the great things about the class; we do not have to agree with each other.

My problem with the statements made by Miss California, aside from the fact that I do not agree with her views, is that I do not think it is ok to put the two words, "No Offense" in front of anything and sugarcoat the fact that it may hurt somebody's feelings; this is quite an ignorant view of the world. What she needs to realize is that her words may be offensive and that regardless of whether or not she wanted to offend somebody, she may have.

Aside from that, I am interested to hear what your best friend's response to you being against gay marriage is. You said, "If my friend were to get married to his boyfriend, I would go and support them! So, I would be alright with it, but as far as my value system goes, I am against it." Maybe I did not read your comments correctly, but I was wondering how you can be against it, but still show up and support your best friend for doing it...


Speaker 4

Date: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:53pm

The answer to your question might be within the very quote you posted, .... "I not agree with what you [marry], but I will defend to the death your right to [marry] it." At least, that's the only thing I could come up with that made sense to me.

 I agree with you, however, .... It's incredibly disingenuous to say what Miss California said and then try to hide behind a front of politeness. It's easier for people to stay hurtful things if they imagine that it isn't actually hurting someone. People are capable of quite impressive levels of cognitive dissonance in this way.


Speaker 5

Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:46pm

Come on you guys, she's a freaking beauty pageant contestant and a terrible public speaker.  She made a poor word choice by saying "no offense" but I think anything she said would have come out sideways.  She's not the brightest crayon in the box.  So to argue against "taking away people's right to be happy" based on one moron's poor locution seems a little bully-ish.  Her point was poorly-made but it is still her right make to it and it was still pretty clear.  She does not support gay-marriage.  That was her answer.  It would be the same if a Catholic asked her the question and she said, "no offense, but I think a ban of gay marriage should not be written in legislature."  That was her attempt to be diplomatic.   Some of us fall short in wearing bathing suits attractively, and well, she falls short in public speaking.  To each his (or her's or its) own.


Speaker 1

Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:25pm

I have to disagree on three points; first it's not just  "a freaking beauty pageant contestant" because like a barbie, she is looked up to and at that moment some child is getting their views molded. Secondly, in saying that I am offended at the idea of 'no offense' to the stripping away of other's happiness is not "bully-ish," I'm merely trying to point out the ridiculousness of saying that to someone with whose rights and mental/emotional health is adversely affected. It is disingenuous and thoughtless,  with the pretense that everything is okay. Finally, one says "no offense" if they're telling someone they don't like the casserole, not to the priest when you are saying sorry I'm making out with my same sex partner in front of you while your at the pulpit. Of course, I'm being dramatic to make the point as I usually do. Everyone is entitled to opinions, that's why we have a forum in which to make them, however not at the cost of others well-being.


Speaker 5

Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009 6:41pm

I lost you halfway through because I think you reached rant status : ).  Anyway, I just felt compelled to play devil's advocate because that's what I do.  I took issue not with you having a problem with her disagreeing with gay marriage, but rather with you arguing against two things and seeming to call it one.  She 1) disagreed with gay marriage on public television and 2) prefaced it with an empty, careless phrase to soften the blow because she was probably aware she was committing political suicide.  You argued that she, like barbie, molds the minds of children who are watching.  What exactly is she molding their minds into?  Would it only be okay for her to mold their minds into approving of gay marriage?  Should she be brutalized by the media and thus mold into their minds that speaking one's opinions is not okay?  One side of the spectrum is "okay" for children to hear, but the other is not?


Speaker 1

Date: Monday, May 4, 2009 8:32pm

I wasn't ranting, actually making light of this looong debate... Regardless, I like devil's advocates, but you said that it is just a beauty pageant and i was stating that it's more than that and used Barbie as a reference to why it is more than just dumb women making their views be known. Again, I am saying dumb women as a general term for her poorly phrased speech... She could be brilliant and just have different views and morals than I and a bad public speaker. I think all are entitled to their opinions, I think it is healthy to speak one's mind, I just don't think that it makes the conversation null and void because it is a beauty pageant specifically because this is popular among the pre-pubescents. That is my opinion and ultimately this is all up to the parents to instill the good morals, or even bad if they so choose :)


Speaker 6

Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 1:33pm

Dear ,

 As a devil's advocate, do you support the right of satanists and Republicans to marry?

 :)

ps: this post does not represent its author's views, institution, or favorite movie starring Katsuhiko Sasaki.


Speaker 6

Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 1:35pm

It just occurred to me that the smiley face : )  is another way to say "no offense." 

 ....It's the end of the semester, that's why.


Speaker 1

Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 4:35pm

Can be, or as a way to show you're being cheeky, can be seen as pretty ambiguous...


Speaker 3

Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17pm

I put in a Voltaire quote (see above).

Nobody said we are attacking people for their points' of view, but rather simply mentioning that we disagree.

Also, my problem is not that she said something offensive. I get offended and I probably offend people all of the time. I simply think it is ignorant to think that people will not be offended just because someone said, "no offense."

Aside from that I think she is a pretty good public speaker (I mean, she made it to runner-up of Miss America), I just don't like her.


Speaker 2

Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:22am

In response to ..., my friend and I have talked about it before, and we both understand each others views. I love your Voltaire quote, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." My friend and I agree to disagree on this issue, and that's completely fine since if everyone was the same it would be boring! Basically, what I meant is that I personally do not agree with gay marriage since it is in opposition with my church's teachings, but I love my friend and I support him, and I think that he and his boyfriend had the right to get married, then they should go and do that and I would support them in their decision to do so. If it makes him happy, then I want him to be happy!


Speaker 1

Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:11pm

however, we are taking away peoples right's to be happy because one groups value system does not agree with another's. It's all very hypocritical and a cope out to hide behind a religion. This is where the "no offense" gets me and I think what Judith Butler is attempting to expose. And it's not just Butler, but Orientalism as well; the text even mentions the Bible being a piece of literature that is held to such a high esteem that despite your acknowledgment of wanting your friend to be able to choose, your religion tells your intuition and love of your friend to think otherwise. It's terribly sad that we allow a text to influence us to the point of making others miserable in the hopes of attaining a place in heaven. If that's heaven, I don't want any part of it.


Speaker 2

Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:55pm

Well, I am a devout Christian (LDS), so religion is something that has been a huge part of my life since day one. It is not a cop-out as far as I am concerned that my answer is due to my religious beliefs. My religious beliefs have helped to shape my value system. I believe in the Bible as more than just a work of literature, I believe there are mistakes in it, but I believe it to be true. However, you may completely disagree with me, you are free to believe as you wish, just as I am free to believe as I wish.

 I see your point on the whole "no offense" thing. In our society, we are so concerned with being politically correct. I believe by Miss California saying that phrase, that was her attempt at trying to be considerate to the other side. I totally understand that. However, she shouldn't have to apologize for her beliefs. I believe gay marriage is wrong. Other people believe it should be allowed. Both sides have their reasons why. I just wish people would try to understand each other instead of bash the other side and actually listen to what the other side has to say. I listened and I'm glad I did. I'm tired of this issue, so I'm going to drop it. I just don't think that it's fair to say that just because of my religious beliefs, it's unreasonable to think this and that I'm hiding behind it. I believe in God, you may not believe in God, that's fine, but please respect my beliefs as I respect yours.


Speaker 1

Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:23am

Okay, I know I am as tired as you to keep this conversation going and I think that the whole point has been lost in it. This is not about anyone's religion, or a lame beauty pageant, or even about Prop 8  for me and that is why I originally made the post. I'm bothered that we make laws allowing others to mold one another based off of their beliefs. Marriage is a symbol that some feel they need to express - I'm not even one of those people! My boyfriend and I have no interest in marriage. I wear a ring on my finger as a token of our love and he brags to all of his friends that I bought him a motorcycle - that's just us. I think this is ultimately my point - but it was totally lost - we are all attempting to express who we love in our own ways and if that means marriage then it shouldn't be hindered.


Speaker 3

Date: Monday, May 4, 2009 10:14pm

HELLO.

 This is where this conversation makes me so sad. I know we have established multiple times that we all respect each others' views, even if we disagree with each other, on any given topic. It is hard to sit back and not share how one feels, when that person feels attacked. Unfortunately, some people do not agree with gay marriage because o what they learn from their religious teachings and this puts us at opposition with one another. Some people take this to the extreme and violence is therefore bred. Yes, the Bible is a canonical work which is held at quite a high esteem, but hopefully in our modern state we can take its teachings and interpret it to teach love, respect, and equality. To teach inequality would be to do an injustice to the Bible and to future generations; our children. Regardless of what the Bible says itself, religion in general does NOT teach hatred at any place in its writings. No religions have scripture which tells its constituents to hate. The hate emerges in the opposition. When one religion feels threatened by another, often fights break out and this is quite a sad aspect of our society as a whole. Many of us live in opposition with the other.

I was reading a book recently which shared that, "The corollary of 'war is caused by religion' should be 'peace is the result of the absence of religion.' It has never been that simple." This scholar is right; it really is not that simple. Truthfully, before monotheism came into existence, about 3,000 years ago, the world was in a constant state of warfare. Amidst classical Greek and Roman societies, the world was also in war. It is hard to escape and it is not religion's fault. What we need to recognize most of all, I think, is that peace and war are not in fact opposites, war and creation are the true opposites. I know I have gone off onto a tangent, but I feel so deeply that we, and this includes myself, need to learn how to live civilly with one another. I am not naive, and I don't need everybody to be baking cakes of flowers and sunshine for one another, but how can we continue to go on like this? This is not a reflection of this small disagreement in a University class in 2009, it is a reflection of the society in which we live. It's Panopticism's untrustworthiness, it's Orientalism's marginalization, it's Feminism's assertion of the identity of the self, it's Postmodernism's inability to stick to one thought or idea to explain, well anything.

 It is not enough to sit around, mind our own business, and wait for the world to change. Stephen Belber, who is a resident of Laramie Wyoming, where Matthew Shepherd was brutally murdered, explains that, "'Live and let live' is, at best, a load of crap. It basically boils down to: 'If I don't tell you I'm a fag, you won't beat the crap out of me'. What kind of solution is that?" Truthfully, I wish I could have found a more universal quote to explain of my ideas but this quote serves the purpose quite well. Insert any ethnic group, religion, race, or whatever in place of the word "fag." Trust me it applies. As stated, I do not care what anybody's personal views are, but don't spread hatred, and don't spread inequality. The quote sort of wraps up this argument, so I think I will leave it at that. Thank you for reading (if you got this far...)


Speaker 7

Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:58pm

I thought your post was great! This quote was perfect:

Voltaire said, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." This is one of the great things about the class; we do not have to agree with each other.

 I always enjoy reading your blogs as well as your posts! Keep up the good work.


Speaker 8

Date: Monday, May 4, 2009 2:20am

You are not the only conservative in the class....Me too so we can get bashed together. I personally was proud of her answer and yes she stumbled a bit on her wording but why wouldn't you? Almost half of the audience and Californians disagree with her. Its unfair that she was robbed of her crown because the judge who happened to be gay didn't like her honesty. Since when is your opinion wrong? As for her answer, I agree on her beliefs, anyone can go ahead and bash me, I just brush it off and defend my standpoint. Bashing people for their individual beliefs is utter ignorance.